quote:Originally posted by paul: This might answer all questions towards this kristi.If It did have a porsche engine in it and it did run, whats its worth???? I read the debate over this on the forum and for two hundred bucks i`ll scrap out what i can and junk the rest. thanks paul
Paul, I think the guys on the other forum are pretty harsh on the condition of your Kristi. Your machine is not complete which makes it worth less, but there is still a market for it. As mentioned, it would make a great donor/spare parts machine for a Kristi owner.
You might consider contacting Gary Wilkinson (The Old Salt) since he is also in Oregon. The company he works for has a Kristi KT-3 that is still used for utility work. I will send you his contact info by email.
Ebay will still probably bring your highest dollar. Here are some some recent auctions of Kristis on ebay:
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I agree with Chris, I think the estimate at the Forums in the $200 range is very low. However, I also don't think this unit has a lot of value, even as a parts source since it appears that some of the proprietary parts have been removed. Those are the parts that hold value to another Kristi owner.
That leaves the value of an old VW engine and some glass, levers and other parts that can be stripped off of this unit. If the hydraulic rams are there, they could probably fetch $15 or $20 each if the seals are still good. The hatch is wrong. The rear door is gone. The tracks are wrong.
I'd think a better estimate might be in the $350 to $500 range?
EDIT: Paul upon a little further consideration, I think it makes sense to justify my pricing postion a little more on this KT3. Basically I look at your unit as being just a little too far gone to be restored. I also see your unit as missing some of the key proprietary parts that make it a good 'parts' machine. The proprietary parts are what make the difference between a restorable unit, a good parts unit (which could also be considered a challenging restoration), or a low value parts unit.
I once restored an old Oliver farm tractor that was pulled out from underneath a collapsed barn, it took me a lot of time searching junkyards to find suitable original parts, and those I found were purchased at high prices, but they were originals and I was making a "parade" tractor out of a wreck. And there is a very strong collector market for Oliver tractors, national association, tractor meets, etc.
In the case of this KT3, the parts that are missing are important, and they are proprietary, which means you will have to fabricate them yourself (if you are skilled at metal work, welding, etc) or you will pay a machine shop some pretty steep money to custom make the parts for you, or you may be able to find suitable, but not original spec parts that you can get to fit, but will not be proper (and therefore will reduce the collectability of the unit to a future buyer). But those are your options for things like the hydraulic tank, fittings, etc.
And you have to bear in mind that the value of small personal snowcats of any brand is pretty limited. Only the Tucker brand has a strong following and some level of collectability. I know of no other brands that would be considered valuable for collectability. They do have some value as actual working units, but their value is then based on the value of similarly capable units of all other brands. So even the best original antique snowcat has limited collector value, and while some may pay a bit more for the brand of their choice, the return is marginal in real terms.
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Hey Paul, Just came across these postings regarding the Kristi KT3 you are selling. Can you tell me who you bought it from? I was examing the pictures you posted of it, and one of the side emblems looks familiar. If it is the guy I think it is, I know him quite well. I have a company Kristi KT3 here in Medford, OR and it had a Porsche Industrial engine in it. You could hardly tell the difference between it and a VW engine. We replaced the Porsche engine with a 1600cc VW engine in 2000. Now only have 32 hours on it.
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Paul, I am brand new here. Did you sell your Kristi? I live in silverton, Or. I have an interest if it is not yet sold. I have never owned a Kristi. I do have a thiokol Imp.
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hi flathorn, I congratulates to your special Kristi! Send us still some active photos or few active short movies in the deep powdersnow. 100% much fun with your Kristi.
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Hey Chris, thank`s for the short movie`s! Have a good time!!! Livu
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It did not sell. I was the high bidder, but did not meet the reserve. So this baby is still available from Byron for anyone who wants a KT-3 dragster!
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